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vc++, silly question
Damage
post 2 Jul, 2008 - 07:50 PM
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Hi, i know this is probably a stupid question. is visual c++ that comes with visual studio the same as standard c++?
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post 2 Jul, 2008 - 07:54 PM
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No, it is Microsoft's C++ complier along with the Visual Studios IDE. Just like when you get a Delphi software suite, you get Borland's C++ compiler.

Someone correct me on this if I'm wrong, but that's how I understand it biggrin.gif
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post 2 Jul, 2008 - 08:55 PM
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sooo does this affect the syntax or anything else important?
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post 2 Jul, 2008 - 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(Damage @ 2 Jul, 2008 - 11:55 PM) *

sooo does this affect the syntax or anything else important?

The syntax no. However you'll need to watch that there are no dependencies in your code, that are only included in the Visual C++ compiler. But this is only if you want your code to be portable.
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post 2 Jul, 2008 - 09:24 PM
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ooh good point, didn;t think of that. thanks for the advice
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post 3 Jul, 2008 - 01:35 PM
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It is the same. I don't think VC++ has any compiler-specific functions (if it does i have never come across them). Your IDE really shouldn't be a big concern for you, since its really just personal preference on the interface (along with compiler specific functions, which are few and far between). They all compile C++. Your code is what makes the program what it is, not the compiler. All the compiler does is convert it into machine language (basically). You are the programmer, not your computer/IDE.
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VC++ should be compatible with standard C++. However in general no two compilers are 100% compatible with each other. Each vendor has their own way of doing this or that.

For the most part VC++ shoudl compile standard C++ code.

HOWEVER the code generated by VC++ is not generally standard C++!!! VC++ has the CLI extensions and tends to try to get you to work with that. CLI is a "managed C++" which extends the syntax of C++ (though operator overloading) and tends to look very alien to C/C++ programmers.

This is often a big source of confusion for people using VC++ -- some people think that the managed extensions are part of standard C++, while others think that VC++ is not really C++ at all.
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in my IDE it says CLR, must be a typo. Also, the CL? is what you use if you need .NET framework with C++ (C++ .NET is one of the not so commonly used .NET extensions).

EDIT: If you select Win32 Console it compiles differently than CLI, so your managed stuff doesn't need to be used. Besides, managed c++ code is only managed when you explicitly say #using <mscorlib.dll>. If you just go to Win32->Win32 Console Application->Empty Project you should be fine

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so using the win32 console is the best bet if i want to pick up a book and start learning?

Thnks for the input everyone
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post 4 Jul, 2008 - 08:37 AM
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Also use Empty Project for now, simpler
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HOWEVER the code generated by VC++ is not generally standard C++!!! VC++ has the CLI extensions and tends to try to get you to work with that. CLI is a "managed C++" which extends the syntax of C++ (though operator overloading) and tends to look very alien to C/C++ programmers.

You can also compile programs as native code in VS2008.
Although you have to tweak the settings, it can be done.
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